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In the Family

January 19, 2015

I am not sure if this story is true or not. It does not seem to be an obvious falsehood or satire, but I have my doubts as its veracity. The story is from Opposing views, but I caught it on Joe the Plumber’s blog.

An 18-year-old woman told New York Magazine that she has been in a two-year sexual relationship with her father after being estranged from him for 12 years.

The father and his ex-girlfriend conceived their daughter when they were both 18, and he left her before the birth. When their daughter was 5 years old, the man was back in the picture for a short time before leaving again.

Twelve years later, the father and his then 17-year-old daughter reconnected online, realizing they had a lot in common. “We shared the same favorite TV shows — “The Simpson” and “The Big Bang Theory” — and we both love to draw,” the daughter told New York’s “Science of Us” blog.

The pair arranged to meet in person and upon seeing her father for the first time in years, the teen said she was immediately attracted to him.

“It was so weird and confusing. I was seeing my dad for the first time in forever but it was also like, He’s so good-looking! And then I was like, What the hell are you thinking? What is wrong with you?” she said. “I saw him as my dad but then also part of me was like, I’m meeting this guy who I have been talking to over the internet and really connecting with and I find him attractive.”

The young woman said that the attraction began to intensify when she stayed with him for five days. One day, they went on a shopping trip and the father complimented her daughter’s figure. When they returned home, they began “play-wrestling.”

“That night we were play-wrestling in the room I was going to sleep in and I bit him. He was wearing a pair of basketball shorts and a tank top and after I bit him I could see goose bumps pop up from his toes to his shoulders. Then he pinched my inner thigh and I got goose bumps,” the teen said. “We stopped and said that we didn’t know what was going on but admitted that we had strong feelings for each other. We discussed whether it was wrong and then we kissed. And then we made out, and then we made love for the first time. That was when I lost my virginity.”

The daughter said she and her father “fell deeply in love” and are now engaged and planning a wedding.

Assuming that this story is true, is there a single logical reason why these two lovers should not be married? Traditionally, the institution of marriage was maintained for the creation and preservation of families. Since human beings reproduce sexually and two distinct genders each playing a role in the process, it has been understood that a marriage must consist of at least one of each sex. Close family members have generally not been allowed to marry each other because of the danger that their offspring will have an increased risk of developing genetic disorders. Such was the understanding in the dark days or institutionalized racism, sexism, homophobia, and heteronormativity.

In our more enlightened times, we understand that marriage has nothing at all to do with families or children. One need not be married to have children and one need not have children with the person one is married to. Marriage is now properly understood as a generic relationship that any two (or more) people can enter into regardless of race, color, creed, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or even species.

So, if two men or two women can get married, why cannot two brothers or two sisters? There is no question of children in such a relationship so any consideration of birth defects or diseases caused by incest is moot. Why shouldn’t a mother and daughter or father and son be permitted to marry one another?

Now, in the case of two family members of the opposite sex marrying, there is the question of the health of any offspring of the relationship, but that is easily resolved. One or both of the partners can simply arranged to have themselves sterilized. There is then no possibility of deformed children and no bar to a happy matrimony.

If marriage can be radically redefined to include same sex couples, there is no logical reason why it cannot be further redefined to include incestuous couples, polygamy, or bestiality. You cannot appeal to tradition or religion. If same sex marriage is a sacred civil right that overrides long tradition or religious sentiment, than so are incestuous marriages. You cannot appeal to personal distaste. Personal distaste is no reason to oppose any such change in policy. I do not oppose same sex marriage because of any personal distaste for homosexuals but because I do not believe that such a radical redefinition of a fundamental institution of society is likely to be beneficial to society.

To put the matter succinctly, if you support the idea of same sex marriage, than logic and consistency dictates that you also support the idea of incestuous marriages. There is no logical reason to support the one and oppose the other. I hope you will be happy in the brave new world you are helping to create.

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Sibling Love

September 7, 2014

I admit to being a little behind the times when it comes to the question of marriage equality. I have seen the light, however, and have changed my mind. I now support marriage equality for all. What changed my was this story I read from the Atlanta affiliate of CBS News, which got me to thinking about the matter.

An Effingham County brother and sister were arrested after allegedly having sex inside a tractor trailer parked in a church parking lot, according to the Savannah Morning News.

Deputies were investigating reports of a prowler about 4:30 a.m. Tuesday when they found Christopher Buckner, 20, and Timothy Savoy, 25, walking near the Countryside Baptist Church in Guyton. According to the report, the deputies determined the pair were siblings and had just had sex.

They later admitted to having sex in the semi three times after watching the movie “The Notebook,” a Sheriff’s Office spokesman said.

Both were charged with incest, aggravated sodomy, and prowling. Buckner was released on $9,000 bond while Savoy remained in the Effingham County jail on $13,400 bond, according to booking documents.

Why is their relationship a crime? These are two consenting adults who obviously feel a great attraction for one another. Why shouldn’t they be allowed top have sex, even though they are brother and sister? Why shouldn’t they be able to get married, if they so desire? If two men or two women can be married, why not two brothers or two sisters? Why not a brother and a sister? I want to be the first to demand marriage equality for incestuous couples.

I am not really serious, of course, except that in a way, I am. If marriage can be arbitrarily redefined to include same sex couples, regardless of tradition or of any consideration of the actual purpose of marriage, why can’t it be redefined to include incestuous couples? Why can’t polygamy be permitted? There is actual precedent for polygamy. Why should marriage be confined to human beings? Perhaps I should demand marriage equality for cross-species relationships. I cannot think of a single reason why any of the circumstances that listed shouldn’t be permitted, if any imaginable relationship could be defined as a “marriage” and if what the left considers to be “fairness” and “equality: are the only considerations

But what if they are not? What if there are, in fact, good reasons to define marriage as a relationship between a man and a woman? What if the people opposed to redefining marriage are not simply motivated by blind hatred and bigotry as the progressive haters and bigots would prefer to believe?

The purpose of marriage is to create and preserve families. Because human beings are not hermaphrodites but are divided into two genders, male and female, in order to conceive, it is necessary for one of each gender to have intercourse. No act of homosexual intercourse can possibly result in the creation of a new life. Because male and female have differing roles in the process, male and female are built differently, both physiologically and psychologically. The two sexes are equal in legal and social terms, but they are not interchangeable. A man cannot bear children. A woman cannot conceive children. Mothers and fathers play different and complementary roles in child rearing and in the marriage generally. Marriage, by definition, must include at least one of each gender. In the West, marriage has always been considered to be between one man and one woman. This is what makes marriage different from every other relationship that human beings engage in, the fact that marriage must include both genders. Two men or two woman can have many kinds of relationships, as friends or lovers, but they cannot be married. To redefine marriage to include same-sex couples takes away the characteristic that makes marriage, well, marriage. If you expand the definition of marriage to include same-sex couples, you are essentially defining away  the concept of marriage altogether.

Of course making the simple observation that same-sex marriage cannot really be a marriage at all is now a thought crime and I suppose that I will be denounced as a hater and a homophobe. So be it. Calling me names will not change what is true.


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